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kielskie78
Posts : 22 Join date : 2010-04-08 Age : 31
| Subject: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:18 pm | |
| SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! *if GM's can't nerf GTBs and the like, we should have 1 slotted shields to be fair enough for us magic users.. ) | |
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sakurakouji
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-03-22 Location : Prontera, beside the weapon and magic dealer LOL
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:42 pm | |
| fair or ruling upon of magic users? I am also a magic user btw | |
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Migz
Posts : 144 Join date : 2010-03-15 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:46 pm | |
| why do you keep forgetting that
PRIESTS WILL NOT DIE IF THERE IS NO GTB | |
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sakurakouji
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-03-22 Location : Prontera, beside the weapon and magic dealer LOL
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:42 pm | |
| what migz says is true, even if no GTB, priests have buffs to lower down the attackers damage and then kill | |
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naiwoon
Posts : 5 Join date : 2010-04-08
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:01 am | |
| I thought equiped with an angeling card will withstand priest's adoramus ? pls enlighten me if i'm wrong | |
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Migz
Posts : 144 Join date : 2010-03-15 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:32 am | |
| Oratio spell from Priest nullifies your Angeling and MDEF [kouji said it goes through MDEF, i havent tested it myself]
well, according to skill description, it reduces 20%, but it -feels- a lot more than that x[ | |
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kielskie78
Posts : 22 Join date : 2010-04-08 Age : 31
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:34 am | |
| DON'T BE SELFISH, IMAGINE.. OTHER CLASSES NOT USING MAGICS CAN USE DIFFERENT KINDS OF SKILLS WITHOUT NULLIFICATION OF ANY KIND FROM US, BUT HOW ABOUT YOU GUYZ WITH GTB 2X.... grrr. THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED 1 SLOT SHIELDS!! 50% NULLIFICATION OF GTBs, NOT FULL. OUR WARLOCKS' SKILLS ARE USELESS IN PVP AND WOE IF IT'S 100%, SO I SUGGEST 1SLOTTED SHIELD OR 50%, GET IT !! | |
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Migz
Posts : 144 Join date : 2010-03-15 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:07 am | |
| This is a suggestion thread, not a complaint thread, keep it CIVIL.
WE ALL get that you want to make Warlocks useful in PvP and WoE.
You do not get that the only way to make Warlocks useful is to make Priests immortal. Who's being selfish? People fighting for balance for multiple classes, or that guy who's begging for Warlocks to PvP even if it endangers the whole PvP Class-Balance system of the server?
Imagine you were a warlock, all happy and stuff about 50% GTB, then you end up seeing everyone is sporting priests with 99 Mdef Set and maybe even a GTB if they can fit it.
These priests don't have to worry about Melee attacks [But it is unlikely they will exist once GTB gets nerfed] ! They'll just Kyrie, Safety Wall and Pneuma, and now that the priests' enemies' GTBs don't block, they'll even Adoramus their enemies to death WHILE THE PRIESTS HEAL THEMSELVES INFINITELY.
And with Melee out of the way, Magic is no match to 99 Mdef, EVEN WHEN THE ENEMY WEARS STAFF OF PIERCING ! They'll just heal themselves the damage from your puny heavily resisted magic infinitely while you slowly but surely die through Adoramus. Sure, you could wear 99 Mdef, Angeling (nothing a little Oratio can't fix,) maybe even Maya, but you'll find out soon enough you can't beat the ArchBishop's defense and attack.
In the end, for now, sacrificing one class to stop another from being too much is proper~
EDIT: Actually, come to think of it, ArchBishops won't be the only overpowered class if GTB gets disabled, SOUL LINKERS, TOO O___O | |
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shast
Posts : 19 Join date : 2010-04-06
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:38 pm | |
| there will still be GTB and were not asking to DISABLE GTB but only to nerf it... 100% is WAY TOO MUCH.. | |
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Migz
Posts : 144 Join date : 2010-03-15 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:40 pm | |
| Whatever lowered percentage you make it, the point remains. Priests and Soul Linkers will be immortal o_O | |
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shast
Posts : 19 Join date : 2010-04-06
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:42 pm | |
| who said they will be immortal?? AFAIK, heals can go only up to 32k | |
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Migz
Posts : 144 Join date : 2010-03-15 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:46 pm | |
| You can't physically hit a priest, that's impossible [with Kyrie/Pneuma] You can try inflicting Burning Status but by the time this gets them to lowered enough HP, you'd have died of Adoramus + Oratio. Once you magically hit a priest wearing 99Mdef and GTB, you'll do so little they can outheal with Highness Heals. + Don't forget Epiclesis and Basilica
Heals go over 32767. 32767 is a sort of number limit for RO just like 999999. In truth, they do a little more [provided you have the Bacsojins, but noone uses those]
In the case of Soul Linker, they have that Kaupe stuff ~ | |
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sakurakouji
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-03-22 Location : Prontera, beside the weapon and magic dealer LOL
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:31 am | |
| those KA-skills of soul linker is a self buff, so you would be doing so little. and those ES-skills are gonna be the one killing you. | |
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kielskie78
Posts : 22 Join date : 2010-04-08 Age : 31
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:33 am | |
| CAN'T YOU GET IT?
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE FAIR ENOUGH,,,
AND THE ADORAMUS SKILL SHOULD BE NERFED AND OTHER SKILLS YOU ARE COMPLAINING WITH.
US WARLOCKS JUST WANT TO TAKE PART IN THE ACTION OR PVPs AND WOEs.
DO YOU THINK WE ARE ENJOYING THAT OUR MAGICS ARE BEING NULLIFIED TOTALLY BY A 2X GTB? WHAT WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOUR ATTACKS(notmagics) ARE BEING NULLIFIED? IS THAT BEING FAIR FOR YOU?
THATS WHY 1SLOTTED SHIELD WAS MY SUGGESTION !! | |
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Migz
Posts : 144 Join date : 2010-03-15 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:29 am | |
| I want to say again, this is a suggestion thread not a complaint thread, BE CIVILIZED WITHOUT ALL CAPS. Your initial suggestion was just to make shields 1 slotted and that has negative impact. You only said now - Quote :
AND THE ADORAMUS SKILL SHOULD BE NERFED AND OTHER SKILLS YOU ARE COMPLAINING WITH. So don't try to get smart with us. >_> We're keeping it FAIRER than the ideas you have said in your first post. We are NOT complaining about Adoramus, we are only pointing out the inevitable future regarding your ideas. If there is anyone COMPLAINING and not SUGGESTING here, it's you. Do you think we enjoy not being able to play Warlock? Why are you talking as if you're the only one who wants to play Magic? are you so special? =)) I personally want to play Sorcerer but I know it's just not possible right now to keep the balance. Do you not understand we are only upholding the greater good of the abRO PvP system? Anyway, the GTB/Shield thing will never work out until ArchBishops are made mortal~ | |
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kielskie78
Posts : 22 Join date : 2010-04-08 Age : 31
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:55 am | |
| REQUESTING FOR THREAD CLOSURE!! ) | |
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sakurakouji
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-03-22 Location : Prontera, beside the weapon and magic dealer LOL
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:44 am | |
| well there you go. GTB nerfed and even with 2 GTB = 90%, Magic damage is still the same as no GTB. | |
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jhin01
Posts : 7 Join date : 2010-04-16
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:47 am | |
| i dont agree with the 1 slot shield, magic users will really overwhelm Star Glad breaker!!! | |
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GM Zutto
Posts : 149 Join date : 2010-01-30
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:59 am | |
| The GTB issue never dies. | |
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Migz
Posts : 144 Join date : 2010-03-15 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:32 am | |
| TRUE LOVE NEVER DIES... @ontopic i think GTB is okay now, reduce damage | |
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sakurakouji
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-03-22 Location : Prontera, beside the weapon and magic dealer LOL
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:32 am | |
| well right now GTB is A-Okay XD just dont make shields 1 slot... | |
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GM Zutto
Posts : 149 Join date : 2010-01-30
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:20 am | |
| I dont think the admins would make the shields one handed.
Closing this one! | |
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Dynex Administrator
Posts : 158 Join date : 2010-01-26
| Subject: Re: SHIELD EQUIPMENTS SHOULD HAVE 1 SLOT ONLY !! Mon May 03, 2010 11:30 pm | |
| Okay you guys if this issue still going You guys know that GTB is nerfed down to 49% so 49X2=98% so when you guys are using magic to a user that has GTB there's a chance that you can hit them with magic and i think this is fair enough.. | |
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